Haggard on Opera

Last night before I fell asleep I watched Opera. This is a rare occurrence not only because I am too manly to watch Opera but because her message that she puts out is sending an amazing amount of people out to indulge or partake in books and other material that the New Age movement is putting out. This cult is dangerous to everyone. If you want more proof I will write about it later, sorry though Opera, not everyone has their "own" Jesus that will get them to a better place...and you should stop saying that. What I wanted to bring into the light though was this... Ted was a very popular preacher/evangelist in Colorado that got caught not only buying drugs but meeting up and paying a male hooker. Haggard lied many times about the issues and did not want it to come out but obviously it came out. The male prostitute that had done the "business" transactions with Ted came forward and brought out the entire story and up until late Haggard has lived a life reaping what he had sewn. The life that Haggard had on the pedestal was obviously taken right from under him as he was forced to resign from the huge mega church he was at and then he was asked to move out of the state of Colorado by the church as well....He moved and tried to find life outside of ministry for what he said was the first time he had really done. Then the church took away some of those bans and he was aloud to come back and live in the house that he had when he was doing ministry. I explain all of that to get to this. What are we supposed to do as a church to a person in this situation. I actually think that in Haggard's situation that the right things were done by the church. The church today usually does not do much in form of church discipline. In this case they got it right. When you see Haggard and his explanations for his homosexual tendencies, you see someone that I believe has felt a huge remorse and felt like crap about what he did, but however he did not explain everything so well as to what God has done and the repentance part of it. He said how sorry he was to the church and to his family for the state of his actions but his defense or lack of for his tendencies and fighting Oprah on the "That's just who you are" comments showed that maybe he hasn't gotten the full picture. So back to the question...what do we do in circumstances like this? The church must discipline those especially leaders that are living in sin. However when you do that and repentance has come and they completely deny the life of sin they were in the church should take them back. In what form or fashion? I am not sure. It does not mean necessarily that they should be thrown back into the same position, but if God puts them into ministry again they should be held accountable. If someone would have held Haggard accountable and talked to him before hand would this even have happened? I don't know. Church discipline should however take place...but forgiveness after true repentance should be out there in the way that Christ did for us all.

Here is the first part of the Oprah show...



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